Jason Kelce and Travis Kelce allegedly argued about the name of their podcast according to one of their "interns."

Jason Kelce opened up about the changes he's seen in his brother Travis Kelce on a new podcast, calling them "staggering."

Jason and Travis Kelce's "intern" is spilling behind-the-scenes secrets of their "New Heights" empire. During a bonus episode of the siblings' podcast, which dropped via Wondery+ on Thursday, Jason, 37,

Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce has not yet announced whether he will play in 2025. But his brother, former Eagles center Jason Kelce, thinks the decision has been made. Jason Kelce said on The Steam Room that his younger brother most likely knows deep down whether he’s going to play or retire.

Jason eventually came around, but the brotherly argument made an impression on Borders. "I was like, ‘Oh s-, these guys are gonna be really good podcasters,'" he teased. Jason K